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Was John Ankerberg Misled about KJVO by relying on false "experts" ?

ankerberg white kjvo facts for those who seek

 

What is the position of XOFC about John Ankerberg and his comments on KJVO ?

We tend to appreciate some of the material produced by Ankerberg, but on this issue of kjvo, he has deferred too much to the "experts", and not done enough of his own research

He has an information sheet  which claims to be accurate information by Ankerberg on KJVO.
http://www.johnankerberg.org/Articl...ty/PC3W0103.pdf



1) The response is that what MV [Modern Version elites] advocates "think" KJVO is, and
what KJVO actually is (most of the time) are different things. Most "scholars" say that KJVO is the belief that the KJV is the ONLY bible that is inspired on earth. Most KJVOs do not believe that. Most KJVOs for example would also agree that the Geneva Bible is the Word of God and the German Bible of Martin Luther is also the Word of God. How then can a KJVO be suggesting that the KJV is the How then can a KJVO be suggesting that the KJV is the ONLY Bible ?

The Answer is that other people have been MISLED about what KJVO really is.


2) Looking at the information sheet of ankerberg, it basically is a roster of who’s who, and they skip the arguments.

3) the tactic is that when you ask ankerberg, he refers you to a different expert. But when you ask that different expert, that one refers you to a third one...and on and on it goes.

4) Ankerberg references both D.A. Carson and Doug Kutilek.

D.A. Carson is a translator for one of the major Modern Versions, and therefore has a financial & academic stake in the outcome of the translation debates. In addition, in the comments we have read that he made (from official pro-modern version sources), he seemed to favor feminist versions of the Bible.

Concerning Doug Kutilek, we have emailed him several times and received emails from him as well. The short answer is - despite the claims, he does not have a clear command of the facts. Of course Ankerberg who cites him would disagree.

5) Ankerberg quotes James White as saying that "that KJV writers have no interest in being fair..." which is not my experience. The comment itself is unfair to KJVOs in addition to being innacurate, and further James White was retained as a consultant to work for the Lockman foundation (for the NASB), therefore he also has a financial stake in the Modern Versions debate.

6) Looking at the info which Ankerberg provided, he lists (on page 2) a number of people who are well known evangelicals, and then implies that Riplinger has called those people "Luciferians". But if riplinger has actually done this, we would like to know where.

Because unless this is true, that would just be slander about Riplinger.

7) it should be noted that the
actual arguments of KJVO or Riplinger are Not addressed, which is not surprising. With many Modern Version advocates, the substance of the issues are not addressed, but the credentials of those who claim to be leaders...are always trumpeted around...almost as if they were holy relics. None of those credentials guarantee infalibility, but most of those so called experts sure wish that we would just agree to treat them as perfected humans without the ability to err or make mistakes.

Relying on the Original Greek Manuscripts - instead of the Textual Critics - would either mean relying on the Textus Receptus or the Parchments that agree with them (which is about 98% of the Greek Manuscripts of the New Testament). Whatever the Nestle-Aland is, it may be the original Nestle from 1898, 1881, or 1904/1910, but all of those are at variance with and CONTRADICT the Historic Greek manuscripts of the Bible.

IN the conflict over Different Bible Versions – Part 5,

at: http://www.johnankerberg.org/Articl...ty/PC3W0303.pdf


Ankerberg quotes
Bruce Metzger to support a point about Erasmus. However, what Ankerberg omits is that it was Metzger and Eugene Nida who worked to have
Carlo Martini appointed to the Nestle-Aland revision committee.


(Isn’t it nice to quote a Princeton Scholar [Metzger] ? But Ankerberg does not tell us that
Princeton Theological Seminary renounced the principal belief that it takes a personal belief in the Atoning work of Jesus Christ in order to receive salvation, and further that Princeton had already kicked out theologically sound scholars (Machen) 30 years before Metzger arrived at Princeton.

 So Princeton had long ago stopped being either doctrinally sound or theologically conservative. In other words, it was a a liberal seminary which rejected Jesus Christ, and a paradise among Textual Critics – But While Ankerberg trumpets Metzger, his background and its implications are nicely passed over).

[But if your church adhered to what Princeton Seminary believes, would you actually Want to attend ? But of course, since its "only the Bible", which is what church life will be based on for 52 Sunday sermons and 52 weeks a year...then that is somehow LESS significant ????]


We are not surprised about Metzger,
since he does not believe in the same Canon of Scripture that Protestants do. Additionally, Metzger himself appointed Virginia Mollenkott to a Protestant Revision Committee, to work on Church Lectionaries in higher protestant denominations. This committee was a committee that Metzger was heading for the World Council of Churches. While you or others might not know that Mollenkott is an avid Feminist lesbian, that argument is not one that Metzger could make.

Carlo Martini is the overseer for all Catholic Theological Training at the Vatican (Pontifical Institute of Rome), in addition to being Archbishop of Milan. How many of Ankerberg’s protestant readers to you think are really receiving quality and truthful information that is faithful to the Reformation and Protestant teachings, by citing Carlo Martini -  without disclosing his  Roman catholic point of view ?

Ankerberg in his last sentence (of part 5) makes a telling statement about manuscripts and Bible versions, where he states about them "that it is how theologians misinterpret words that cause denominational differences".

Maybe he actually believes this. But for the record, what caused denominational differences historically – is that the RCC used one group of manuscripts (Codex Vaticanus) and the protestants used another (the other 98% of the Bible manuscripts that
disagree with Vaticanus).

In the same last paragraph, Ankerberg asks if Conservative Protestants have any desire to promote "Catholic Doctrine" ? Obviously, if we are including
Bruce Metzger and Kurt Aland (& Nida) in the question, the answer must be YES – since they invited Official Roman Catholic Theologians to play a part in the translation work that they knew would be so foundational to the training of almost All future Protestant theologians.

But Ankerberg does not expose his readers to THOSE facts. In addition, it should be noted about the Nestle-Aland Revision Committee (which controls the Greek Text used in all Modern Protestant Versions) – that this Revision Committee and the UBS (which publishes them) entered into an Official Agreement with the Vatican in the 1960s, giving them VETO over aspects of the Nestle-Aland text that they had a problem with.

That is Not Only "addressing" the issue of whether or not the Nestle Aland is Catholic (which version it would have to be in anycase, since Codex Vaticanus is only used to support Catholic Bibles and Catholic Doctrines), it is proof that the answer to the question of whether or not Protestants are actively working to cooperate with the Vatican can be answered affirmatively, and the answer is clearly "
Yes".

Ankerberg calls those Protestants he refers to  "conservative", but a small clue about the truth of this...is that protestants who are truly Biblically and theologically conservative do not appoint Lesbian Feminists to their committees.

Oh, and if you’re wondering when Metzger appointed Molenkott to the Lectionary Revision Committee, it was in the late 1980s and 1990s. By then, her pro-homosexual book had already come out (in 1978). This is a secret to no one, except to Evangelicals who defend so-called Modern Versions of the Bible. Since 1978, many more of her books have also been published, each more intense than the last one. (Just check this out at Amazon.com)

Where Ankerberg is one of the sources material used, it will explain some of your conclusions – about this issue.

For him, It may possibly...potentially...theoretically...perhaps...some day...in the future...be worth re-examining some of the facts that surround the Actual merits of the issues.

But it seems that it was a lot easier to rely on so-called experts, rather than having to do the research for himself. It is time for us to us to do our own research, and stop taking the word of experts, who are not investigating some of these issues enough...

We can only hope and pray that Ankerberg will come to the point where he understands that he erred in his research and in his conclusions. Pray for him in that regard.

 

 

 

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