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The Council of Nicea

 

Question

Did the Council of Nicea "decide" which books were to be in the New Testament Cannon ? or did it - instead - only recognize the Books of the New Testament that had already been recognized as sacred, holy and inspired scriptures ?

 

 

Reply

The Council of Nicea met in 325 A.D, assembled at the command of the Roman Emperor Constantine, and met to address the heresies of a man whose name was Arius.

 

The Council of Nicea did NOT actually make the original decision about which books were to be part of the Bible. What the councils did do was no so much decide, as AGREE with what had already been decided by the Apostles and was already in practice in the churches all over the world.

The Roman Catholic Church would have you believe that all local churches and congregations were in chaos and all having all sorts of books in their churches and considering them as scripture, being deceived until Three Hundred Years Later in 325 A.D., the Catholic Church finally gets it right comes in and restores order.

In other words, Jesus would have cared about His Church "so much"… that he would have neglected it for 300 years, until He finally could get his own act together, and inspire men to meet together in a council supervised by a pagan worshipping Emperor. But that is not what happened.

The Church - the True Church of Jesus Christ composed of independent Bible-preaching congregations - had been in operation ever since the Disciples of Christ, and had spent DECADES spreading the word of Jesus Christ through the New Testament books...for all of their lives.

The Catholic Church was not even around, and Early Christianity was flourishing. It was flourishing so much that in dozens of places of the Roman Empire, Christians were building underground cities called catacombs...in order to survive the persecutions that Satan was inspiring and directing through the Roman Emperors.


In the eyes of the Catholic Church Hierarchy, You would think that "they" were the solution to all the problems. The truth is – when one looks at the historical documents - the Catholic Church was the Problem, to the true and scriptural solutions that Jesus Christ had given to his Disciples.

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Remember at the time of the Council of Nicea that the Roman Catholic Church Hierarchy did Not yet exist. It did not have that little piece of real estate yet in the Vatican until after 325 A.D. It was after the Council of Nicea that the Emperor set up the Catholic Church.


When the Council of Nicea assembled, who assembled it and called it...since the Catholic Church did not exist ?

Answer: the Imperial Decree of the Roman Emperor Constantine summoned that council. And it was composed not of Catholic Church Bishops (as they Catholic Church Hierarchy likes to state) but of Independent Bible Believing Pastors.

Since the Catholic Church did not exist, then from where would those Bishops and Pastors at the Council of Nicea have derived their moral and Biblical authority ?

There was no central authority ! They derived their authority from their own independent local Bible Believing congregations. And the Church [meaning the collection of local independent Bible Congregations] was functioning quite well without the interference from Rome.

But the Roman Emperor Constantine who worshipped the Sun God knew that he was having trouble gaining legitimacy amongst Christians. He craved this and sought out Eusebius to see how to make this happen. Eusebius suggested a council of all of the Independent Christian
Churches within the Roman Empire, and Constantine agreed.

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But we are getting a bit off the track...the point is that


1) the Church Councils did not "decide" the Cannon of the Bible, they rather AFFIRMED/CONFIRMED the Cannon.

2) the books known as the Apocrypha were NOT accepted as part of Scripture.

3) the history of the Catholic Church is that the longer she continues, the greater her heresies become. She continues to accumulate untruth as time progresses.

The more that the Catholic Church continues in time,the greater her reliance on apocryphal books. It Had to be that way, because the 66 books of the regular and true Bible in no way justified the doctrines that the Catholic Church was teaching.

4) for this reason, the Roman Catholic Church has tried to uphold the supposed Cannonicity of the Apocrypha. They did not succeed in doing this until the Council of Trent, when they finally came out and said that the books of the Apocrypha would be treated as Holy Scripture itself. That was a DEPARTURE from the historical books of the Bible, and a departure from history, and a departure from treating the Apocryphal books as Not being part of the Canon of Scripture. In other words, 1500 years after Jesus Died (and rose again), the Roman Catholic Church decided to change which books should be included in the Bible. 

Fortunately for us, the Bible continues to be true, despite the teachings of Rome. It was independent Bible Churches and congregations that the Holy Spirit acted through in order to preserve his Holy Word. God values ordinary people and works through them. We see this over and over in the Old and New Testament.

God entrusted his church to its head, Jesus Christ, and the day to day operations to the Holy Spirit indwelling all those who trust fully in the message of Jesus Christ and nothing else. Those believers are the ones who preserved his word.

Click here for an example of how the Gospel of Matthew was already recognized as being a valid part of sacred scripture, long before 325 A.D.

 

For more information on the Canon of the Bible, please go to our Books section and consider this book:

 

 

 

Nag Hamadi & Canonization

 

 

 

THERE IS NOT ONE CHRISTIAN NATION ON EARTH WHERE MUSLIMS ARE PERSECUTED.

Yet in most nations where the majority of the population are Muslims, there is systematic government persecution of Christians.

NO HAY UNA NACIÓN CRISTIANA EN LA TIERRA EN DONDE PERSIGUEN A LOS MUSULMANES. 

Con todo en la mayoría de las naciones donde está musulmanes la mayoría de la población, hay persecución sistemática del gobierno de cristianos.

 CI NON È UNA NAZIONE CRISTIANA SU TERRA DOVE I MUSULMANI PERSECUTED. Tuttavia nella maggior parte delle nazioni dove la maggior parte della popolazione è musulmani, ci è persecution sistematico di governo dei cristiani

ER IS NIET ÉÉN CHRISTELIJKE NATIE TER WERELD WAAR MOSLIMS WORDEN VERVOLGD. Maar toch in de meeste naties waar de meerderheid van de bevolking Moslims is, is er systematische overheidsvervolging van Christenen

NÃO HÁ UMA NAÇÃO CHRISTIAN NA TERRA ONDE OS MUÇULMANOS PERSECUTED. Contudo em a maioria de nações onde a maioria da população é muçulmanos, há um persecution sistemático do governo dos cristãos.


ES GIBT NICHT EINE CHRISTLICHE NATION AUF MASSE, IN DER MOSLEMS VERFOLGT WERDEN. Dennoch in den meisten Nationen, in denen die Majorität der Bevölkerung Moslems sind, gibt es systematische Regierung Verfolgung der Christen.

 

"Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance."

--Article 18 of the
Universal Declaration of Human Rights--

 

 

 


Christian Conversions - According to the Bible - Can NEVER be forced.

Any Conversion to Christianity which would be "Forced" would NOT be recognized by God. It is in His True and KIND nature, that those who come to Him and choose to believe in Him, must come to Him OF THEIR OWN FREE WILL.



Don't Let anyone tell you that Christians support Forced Conversions.

That is False. True Christianity is NEVER forced.

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Las conversiones cristianas - según la biblia - pueden NUNCA ser forzadas. Nadie que son un cristiano verdadero forzarían o compell cualquier persona a hacer un cristiano contra sus el propios . La razón de esto es ésa que toma la acción contra la voluntad o contra la intención alguien sea una acción del desacato al dios. Ninguna conversión al cristianismo que sería "forzado" no sería reconocida por God. Está en su verdad y la naturaleza BUENA, esa los que vengan a él y elijan creer en él, debe venir a él DE SU PROPIA VOLUNTAD LIBRE. El dios cristiano es bastante grande entender cómo responder a los que decidan que no desean conocerle o entender. El trabajo de cristianos es continuar comunicando el amor del dios a cada uno que esté dispuesto a oír hablar él. Muchos pueblan incluso hoy, no desean oír hablar el dios cristiano. Más específicamente, qué esa gente no desea está para que USTED oiga hablar la amabilidad del dios cristiano. Esa gente está asustada que si usted descubre sobre la amabilidad y la calidad y el amor del dios cristiano, eso que usted puede desear para descubrir más sobre él. Y esa gente está asustada que opondrían a su descubrir la verdad sobre el dios del cristianismo que ofrece vida eterna por siempre a las que pidan ella y decide al dios a que ella sirve creer en él y descubrir más del libro llamado el "nuevo testamento". Ése es el miedo verdadero de los que opongan a dios cristiano. No deje cualquier persona decirle que la ayuda de los cristianos forzara conversiones. Eso es falso. El cristianismo verdadero NUNCA es forzado.

 

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Le conversioni cristiane - secondo la bibbia - possono MAI essere forzate. Nessuno che fossero un cristiano allineare forzerebbero o compell chiunque da diventare un cristiano contro il loro propri. Il motivo per questo è quello che agisce contro la volontà o contro l'intenzione di qualcuno sia un'azione di disrespect al dio. Alcuna conversione a christianity che sarebbe "forzato" non sarebbe riconosciuta da God. È nel suo allineare e la natura GENTILE, quella coloro che viene a lui e sceglie credere in lui, deve venire a lui della LORO PROPRIA VOLONTÀ LIBERA. Il dio cristiano è abbastanza grande capire come rispondere a coloro che decide che non desiderano conoscerle o capire. Il lavoro dei cristiani deve continuare a comunicare l'amore del dio a tutto che sia disposto a sentire parlare di esso. Molti popolano persino oggi, non desiderano sentire parlare del dio cristiano. Più specificamente, che cosa quella gente non desidera è affinchè senta parlare della bontà del dio cristiano. Quella gente è impaurita che se scoprite circa la bontà e la qualità e l'amore del dio cristiano, quello che potete desiderare per scoprirgli più circa. E quella gente è impaurita che il dio che servono sarebbe opposto a vostro scoprire la verità circa il dio di christianity che offre per sempre la vita Eterna a coloro che chiede esso e decide credere in lui e scoprire più dal libro denominato "il nuovo Testamento". Quello è il timore reale di coloro che oppone il dio cristiano. Non lasci chiunque dirvi che il supporto dei cristiani abbia forzato le conversioni. Quello è falso. Il christianity allineare non è MAI forzato

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Οι χριστιανικές μετατροπές - σύμφωνα με τη Βίβλο - δεν μπορούν ΠΟΤΕ να αναγκαστούν. Κανένας που είναι αληθινός Χριστιανός θα ανάγκαζε ή compell καθένας για να γίνει Χριστιανός ενάντια δικοί τους. Ο λόγος για αυτό είναι ότι η λήψη μέτρων ενάντια στη θέληση ή ενάντια στην πρόθεση κάποιου θα ήταν μια δράση της ασέβειας στο Θεό. Οποιαδήποτε μετατροπή στο χριστιανισμό που "θα αναγκαζόταν" δεν θα αναγνωριζόταν από το Θεό. Είναι στην αληθινή και ΚΑΛΗ φύση του, ότι εκείνοι που έρχονται σε τον και επιλέγουν να πιστεψουν σε τον, πρέπει να έρθουν σε τον ΕΛΕΥΘΕΡΟΥ ΤΟΥΣ. Ο χριστιανικός Θεός είναι αρκετά μεγάλος να καταλάβει πώς να αποκριθεί σε εκείνοι που αποφασίζουν ότι δεν θέλουν να τον ξέρουν ή να καταλάβουν. Η εργασία των Χριστιανών είναι να συνεχίσει να διαβιβάζει την αγάπη του Θεού σε τον καθέναν που είναι πρόθυμος να ακούσει για την. Πολλοί άνθρωποι ακόμα και σήμερα, δεν θέλουν να ακούσουν για το χριστιανικό Θεό. Πιό συγκεκριμένα, τι εκείνοι οι άνθρωποι δεν θέλουν είναι για ΣΑΣ να ακούσει για την ευγένεια του χριστιανικού GOd. Εκείνοι οι άνθρωποι είναι φοβισμένοι ότι εάν ανακαλύπτετε για την ευγένεια και την καλοσύνη και την αγάπη του χριστιανικού Θεού, ότι μπορείτε να θελήσετε να ανακαλύψετε περισσότερων για τον. Και εκείνοι οι άνθρωποι είναι φοβισμένοι ότι ο Θεός που εξυπηρετούν θα αντιτασσόταν στην ανακάλυψή σας της αλήθειας για το Θεό του χριστιανισμού που προσφέρει την αιώνια ζωή για πάντα σε εκείνοι που ζητούν την και αποφασίζουν να πιστεψουν σε τον και να ανακαλύψουν περισσότερων από το βιβλίο αποκαλούμενο "νέα διαθήκη". Αυτός είναι ο πραγματικός φόβος εκείνοι που αντιτάσσουν το χριστιανικό Θεό. Μην αφήστε καθενός να σας πει ότι οι Χριστιανοί υποστηρίζουν τις αναγκασμένες μετατροπές. Αυτός είναι ψεύτικος. Ο αληθινός χριστιανισμός δεν αναγκάζεται ΠΟΤΕ.

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De christelijke Omzettingen - volgens de Bijbel - kunnen NOOIT worden gedwongen. Niemand wie een ware Christen is zou dwingen of compell zal iedereen om een Christen te worden tegen hun. De reden voor dit is dat het Voeren van Actie tegen de Wil of tegen de bedoeling van iemand een actie van disrespect aan God zou zijn. Om het even welke Omzetting in Christendom dat "zou gedwongen worden" zou NIET erkend worden door God. Het is in Zijn Ware en VRIENDELIJKE aard, dat zij die aan hem komen en om in hem verkiezen te geloven, aan hem VAN HUN EIGEN VRIJ moeten komen ZULLEN. De Christelijke God is Groot genoeg begrijpen hoe te aan zij te antwoorden die besluiten dat zij niet hem kennen of willen begrijpen. De Baan van Christenen moet blijven de Liefde van God aan iedereen meedelen wie bereid om over het is te horen. Vele mensen zelfs vandaag, willen niet over de Christelijke God horen. Specifieker, moet wat niet die mensen willen voor U over de Vriendelijkheid van Christelijke GOd horen. Die mensen zijn bang dat als u over de vriendelijkheid en de goedheid en de liefde van de Christelijke God te weten komt, dat u meer over hem kunt willen te weten komen. En die mensen zijn bang dat de God die zij dienen zich aan uw het te weten komen van de waarheid over de God van Christendom verzetten die voor altijd het Eeuwige Leven aan zij aanbiedt die om het vragen en om in hem beslissen te geloven en meer van het boek te weten te komen genoemd het "Nieuwe Testament". Dat is de echte Vrees voor zij die zich de Christelijke God verzetten. Laat iedereen niet u vertellen dat de Christenen Gedwongen Omzettingen steunen. Dat is Vals. Het ware Christendom wordt NOOIT gedwongen.

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Christliche Umwandlungen - entsprechend der Bibel - können Zwangs NIE sein. Niemand, die ein zutreffender Christ ist, würden oder compell jedermann zwingen, zum ein Christ gegen ihre Selbst zu werden werden. Der Grund für dieses ist der, der Maßnahmen gegen den Willen ergreift, oder gegen die Absicht von jemand seien Sie eine Tätigkeit der Respektlosigkeit zum Gott. Keine Umwandlung zum Christentum, das "Zwangs" sein würde, würde NICHT von God erkannt. Sie ist in seinem zutreffenden und die FREUNDLICHE Natur, diese die, die zu ihm kommen und beschließen, an ihn zu glauben, muß zu ihm IHRES EIGENEN FREIEN WILLEN kommen. Der christliche Gott ist genug groß, zu verstehen, wie man auf die reagiert, die entscheiden, daß sie nicht ihn kennen oder verstehen möchten. Der Job der Christen soll fortfahren, die Liebe des Gottes zu jeder mitzuteilen, das bereit ist, über sie zu hören. Viele bevölkeren sogar heute, möchten nicht über den christlichen Gott hören. Spezifischer, was jene Leute nicht wünschen, ist, damit SIE über die Freundlichkeit des christlichen Gottes hören. Jene Leute haben daß, wenn Sie über die Freundlichkeit und die Güte und die Liebe des christlichen Gottes herausfinden, das Angst, das Sie mehr über ihn herausfinden wünschen können. Und jene Leute haben Angst, daß der Gott, den sie dienen, Ihrem die Wahrheit über den Gott des Christentums herausfinden entgegengesetzt würde, das ewiges Leben für immer denen anbietet, die um sie bitten und, an ihn zu glauben entscheidet und mehr vom Buch herauszufinden, das das "neue Testament" genannt wurde. Die ist die reale Furcht vor denen, die dem christlichen Gott entgegensetzen. Lassen Sie nicht niemand Ihnen erklären, daß Christunterstützung Umwandlungen zwang. Das ist falsch. Zutreffendes Christentum ist NIE Zwangs.

 

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キリスト教の転換は- 聖書に従って- 決して強制である場合もない。 本当のクリスチャンである誰もまたは彼らの専有物に対してクリスチャンになるcompell だれでも強制しない。 これの理由は意志に対して処置をとるそれであるまたは誰かの意思に対して神へ無礼の行為でであつて下さい。 "強制" であるキリスト教へのどの転換でもGod によって確認されない。それは彼の本当にあり、彼に来、彼を信じることを選ぶ人々その親切な性質は彼らの自身の自由意志の彼に来なければならない。 理解するにはキリスト教の彼を知るか、または言うことがわかりたいと思わないことを神は決定する神に答える方法を十分に大きい。クリスチャンの仕事はそれについて聞いて喜んでの皆に神の愛を伝え続けるべきである。 多数は、キリスト教の神について聞きたいと思わない今日民を住まわせる。それらの人々はほしいと思わない何がとりわけ、であるキリスト教の神の親切さについて聞くべきあなたのため。それらの人々はキリスト教の神の親切さについておよび長所および愛見つければ恐れていること、あなたが彼についての詳細を見つけたいと思う場合もあるそれ。そしてそれらの人々は役立つ神があなたのそれを頼む反対され、彼を信じ、"新約聖書" と呼ばれた本からの多くを見つけることにするそれらに永遠の生命を永久に提供するキリスト教の神についての真実を見つけることにこと恐れている。それはキリスト教の神に反対するそれの実質の恐れである。 クリスチャンサポートが転換を強制するようにだれでも言わないために注意してはいけない。 それは偽である。本当のキリスト教は強制決してでない。

 

 

 

 

Core Universal Rights

The right to believe, to worship and witness
The right to change one's belief or religion
The right to join together and express one's belief

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Las Derechas Del Universal De la Base

 La derecha de creer, de adorar, de explicar y de atestiguar la derecha de cambiar su creencia o religión la derecha de ensamblar junto con otras y de expresar su creencia

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Diritti Dell'Universale 

Di Nucleo La destra credere, adorare, spiegare e testimoniare la destra cambiare la sua credenza o religione la destra unirsi insieme ad altre ed esprimere la sua credenza

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De Universele Rechten van de kern 

Het recht om en het recht te getuigen zijn geloof of godsdienst te veranderen het recht te geloven, te aanbidden, te verklaren samen met anderen toe te treden en zijn geloof uit te drukken

 

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